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    How are things for us users all around the world in different locales? How safe do people feel? Anyone in a hot spot area? Anyone tested so far?
    I wrote a few words in the off-topic section, as it was my birthday today.
    Our country is also in kind of a 'lockdown' now.
    Most people who can work online do so, and stay home.
    Others who work in vital sections as light, energy and transport of food and medication still go to their workplaces.
    Schools will be closed tomorrow. People who work in healthcare and public services as police can still bring their children to school, they will be taken care of. We don't want the grandparents of these children to take care of them, and maybe be exposed to the dangerous virus. Children seem to have a somewhat lesser chance to be infected, but there is discussion about the fact whether they can transmit the virus.
    Teachers are working on online programs, so most pupils can also do schoolwork at home.
    The region I live has many people who are infected. At this time the hospitals can still do their work, but the situation worries me.
    I stay at home with my husband, we see our daughter at 'skype' or 'facetime', but we can't hug her at the moment. We communicate with friends on whatsapp or by phonecalls.
    Groceries will be delivered at home.
    We only leave the house when strictly necessairy, for groceries we forgot, or to go to the pharmacy. I will call the pharmacy tomorrow, to see whether they can deliver medication at our home.
    My husband and I both had a bit of a cold, but we did'nt get tested so far. You only get tested when you have a fever, and/or have difficulty breathing.
    In general, all efforts are made to 'flatten the curve'. That means, that by taking all this precautions they hope we will not have to big a peak in victims, so that our healthcare-system will be able to manage things, and provide room at intensive-care units for the people who need it most.
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    I wrote a few words in the off-topic section, as it was my birthday today.
    Our country is also in kind of a 'lockdown' now.
    Most people who can work online do so, and stay home.
    Others who work in vital sections as light, energy and transport of food and medication still go to their workplaces.
    Schools will be closed tomorrow. People who work in healthcare and public services as police can still bring their children to school, they will be taken care of. We don't want the grandparents of these children to take care of them, and maybe be exposed to the dangerous virus. Children seem to have a somewhat lesser chance to be infected, but there is discussion about the fact whether they can transmit the virus.
    Teachers are working on online programs, so most pupils can also do schoolwork at home.
    The region I live has many people who are infected. At this time the hospitals can still do their work, but the situation worries me.
    I stay at home with my husband, we see our daughter at 'skype' or 'facetime', but we can't hug her at the moment. We communicate with friends on whatsapp or by phonecalls.
    Groceries will be delivered at home.
    We only leave the house when strictly necessairy, for groceries we forgot, or to go to the pharmacy. I will call the pharmacy tomorrow, to see whether they can deliver medication at our home.
    My husband and I both had a bit of a cold, but we did'nt get tested so far. You only get tested when you have a fever, and/or have difficulty breathing.
    In general, all efforts are made to 'flatten the curve'. That means, that by taking all this precautions they hope we will not have to big a peak in victims, so that our healthcare-system will be able to manage things, and provide room at intensive-care units for the people who need it most.
    Happy birthday!
    What country do you live in?


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    The Netherlands!
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    This thing has taken us all by storm.
    I will start with a little levity. The police in Oregon put out a statement for people to stop calling 911 because they ran out of toilet paper.
    I live in an active adult community, you have to be over 55 to move in, most people are septuagenarians. We have individual homes. There are amenities like clubhouse, pools, gym etc. Fortunately management closed everything for the next month and said if people use the outdoor facilities they do it at their own risk. After my diagnosis three years ago I realized people would attend meetings and clubs no matter how sick or contagious they were. If they walked past me, I would have a cold that went into something serious. I realized then that I couldnít change anyone else, I could only change myself. So I stopped all threatening interaction. We remained here because as you all know, some days I just didnít have the strength to get the mail let alone move. We like our house and eventually accepted we would just go with good days, bad days. Today I say Wegeners might be a blessing because I can handle staying in. There are 12 houses on our block, people in their 70ís and 80ís. Absolutely, not one household in good health, cancer, diabetes, strokes. Think of it and itís here. Well, I talked to some of them over the phone and they refuse to stay home, going mall shopping, out to eat, casino trips. They say if they had to stay home they would go crazy. Wegeners, you taught me how to play it safe. Now get this, I am the youngest one on my block. Neighbors have been kind enough to offer to shop for us. Not necessary. Last year when both my husband and I were simultaneously sick, I swore I would always be prepared in the food and paper goods, not extreme hoarding but weíll get by just fine. We also have two grocery stores doing deliveries for $5, but I hear their shelves are currently empty.
    Now, you will all find this interesting. My checkup at Duke was scheduled for this week. Not infusion, just a basic consult and I am actually feeling pretty good. At first we had hotel reservations and picked a nice restaurant. I even had a few shops I wanted to checkout. Then this Covid19 mushroomed like grease lightening. Next, I heard Duke was going to online classes. I cancelled my appointment and received a warm and encouraging note from my doctor in complete agreement that we should stay home and stay safe. Coming from someone who has specialized in this field confirms my decision.
    We have sidewalks and walking trails, so we wonít be confined inside. Very small front yards, so I will do a lot of people watching. My husband is going places through the travel channel.
    We do not have a handle on how many people this has hit in the US. Whenever I hear that older adults with a compromised immune system are most at risk my stomach does a somersault.
    I am not taking this lightly, the unknown is frightening. At first I was watching too much news, but tonight we watched a ridiculous movie and ate pasta. So glad we have two poodles who keep us in stitches.
    drz, John, Richard and all, I am so glad you reached out and told us what is going on in your homes and neck of the woods. This contact with all of you faced with our challenges helps. I am praying for all of us.
    Stay safe.
    Masha

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    Masha,

    It is sad to hear (a story I hear all over) that people are not taking this seriously. For your elder neighbors, maybe they'll get it when they are gasping for air and there are no available ventilators, or better yet, if you're over 80 (or 70, 65, 60) and the government tells you "you're on your own", as they are about to do in Italy.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sive-care.html

    Even better, all of these selfish people that can't be troubled with fighting a pandemic by staying indoors are going to bankrupt the healthcare industry, then when people like us go to get our RTX infusions, there won't be any money left to pay for them (if there will be any RTX at all, it's manufactured in China).

    Maybe future generations will learn from our decadence that it cannot exist without gratitude and responsibility. Maybe American leaders will also learn it isn't wise to outsource critical infrastructure like the production of medicine to our geopolitical rivals.

    As they say, Good Times create Weak Men, Weak Men create Hard Times, Hard Times create Strong Men, Strong Men create Good Times, and the cycle repeats.

    I apologize for being so fatalistic. I hope horribly wrong on all this. I just wish I had my old strength to protect my family, and I'm experiencing every emotion that goes with having that strength taken away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richard052018 View Post
    Masha,

    It is sad to hear (a story I hear all over) that people are not taking this seriously. For your elder neighbors, maybe they'll get it when they are gasping for air and there are no available ventilators, or better yet, if you're over 80 (or 70, 65, 60) and the government tells you "you're on your own", as they are about to do in Italy.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...sive-care.html

    Even better, all of these selfish people that can't be troubled with fighting a pandemic by staying indoors are going to bankrupt the healthcare industry, then when people like us go to get our RTX infusions, there won't be any money left to pay for them (if there will be any RTX at all, it's manufactured in China).

    Maybe future generations will learn from our decadence that it cannot exist without gratitude and responsibility. Maybe American leaders will also learn it isn't wise to outsource critical infrastructure like the production of medicine to our geopolitical rivals.

    As they say, Good Times create Weak Men, Weak Men create Hard Times, Hard Times create Strong Men, Strong Men create Good Times, and the cycle repeats.

    I apologize for being so fatalistic. I hope horribly wrong on all this. I just wish I had my old strength to protect my family, and I'm experiencing every emotion that goes with having that strength taken away.
    It's not just Italy who are having to deny treatment to the most vulnerable.
    It is happening in the UK. An elderly gentleman was suffering from COVID-19 and when their daughter phoned 999 (911 equivalent) they were told that the hospitals are overwhelmed and they suggested that loved ones came to be around him (defeats the object of self isolation). He died at home 13 hours later with no kind of care provided.
    Diagnosed April 1995

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    It's very sad to read this, Gilders.
    I hope you can take precautions, and can get the help you want when needed.
    Living with WG/GPA since june 2010...

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    It's very sad to read this, Gilders.
    I hope you can take precautions, and can get the help you want when needed.
    My wife works at a supermarket. Supermarkets are where the largest crowds are, so the chance of infection is VERY high. It's also where people who are just beginning to feel ill rush to, to stock up on supplies, spreading the virus as they go.
    The Prime Minister has advised that "it will be necessary to go further and to ensure that those with the most serious health conditions are largely shielded from social contact for around 12 weeks.". My wife has been to work and thankfully they are honouring her request for a 12 week break from this Sunday. BUT it will have to be unpaid as the wording of the PM's statement means it's not a legal requirement, so her company says it's her choice to self isolate, not law, so they won't pay.

    Thankfully I have a great family who will help out with bills over the coming weeks.

    My son, who lives about 30 miles away has coronavirus at the moment. He has been struggling to breath, but he has received no help apart from his next door neighbour who posted an inhaler through his door (this has been helping him and he seems to be slowly recovering).

    Take care everyone and please take this virus seriously.
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    My thoughts are with your son. I am hoping for sure that he will have an ongoing recovery.
    Good to hear that your wife can take a break from work, and that you have such nice and supporting family-members.
    I also hope that your government will reconsider making financiel arrangements.
    Here in The Netherlands all kind of financial arrangements are made for people who don't have an income due to the coronacrisis.
    Wishing you the very best, hope you all stay as healthy as you can!
    Living with WG/GPA since june 2010...

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    Lots of discussion going on as every place and people try to deal with steps to contain the virus. Changes and rules happen very quickly which just contributes to the chaos and stress. But for the most part I am impressed at how well most people seem to be about accepting restrictions. Of course there will always be those few who don't think the rules apply to them or others who fail to appreciate the seriousness of the pandemic. Italy made a good video about how many people there didn't take it seriously and now they are telling the world not to make the same mistake they did.

    It bothers me that some people and organizations are deliberately spreading false information intended to increase anxiety or to deny the seriousness of pandemic in order to try calm down their own population after they bungled their preparation for the pandemic. Muzzling and censoring the medical experts seems a very poor reaction and unhelpful to me but many governments have done it and are still doing it.

    Our major news outlets in USA reported the following: "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention submitted the plan as a way of trying to control the virus, but White House officials ordered the air travel recommendation be removed, said the official who had direct knowledge of the plan. Trump administration officials have since suggested certain people should consider not traveling, but have stopped short of the stronger guidance sought by the CDC."

    At least our news outlets are still free to publish news like this which they could not do in many countries. The lack of getting good accurate information hinders the ability of the world to contain the virus since the virus has now spread around the world.

    Right now most places are rushing to try find a way to reduce the financial impact upon people hurt by shut downs and trying to increase the supplies and testing equipment we need to test and treat the increasing population of people affected by the virus. We don't have adequate testing available in our area yet and that might be a few weeks away but so far our hospitals are not overwhelmed since we have no confirmed cases yet in our area.

    I appreciate that many people recognize our extreme vulnerability to the virus because of our GPA and suppressed immune system and related complications. I know everyone here will do their best to try stay safe and hope we all can succeed in doing so.
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