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    Hi All,
    I did some digging in the literature and found that post nasal drip, cough, especially at night and wheezing can be caused by pepsin enzymes.
    Some people like my mom have silent reflux where there are not many symptoms.
    The pepsin enzyme appears to be responsible for the attack on the mucosal lining of the esophagus and throat and not really the acid.
    An acidic environment activates this pepsin enzyme.
    Sodium alginate has been found effective in stopping this enzymes attack.
    So, I have some sodium alginate which I gave my mom 1 tsp and her post nasal drip stopped.
    She hasn't coughed, yet either.
    I will try to update if this works.

    Alginate controls heartburn in patients with erosive and nonerosive reflux disease

    Sodium Alginate to Treat Non-Acid Reflux | Fauquier ENT Blog

    I forgot to thank everyone for helping me figure this out.
    Last edited by mrtmeo; 08-18-2014 at 11:49 AM.

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    I have wondered, too, if some of my coughing could be from acid reflux, which I have from time to time, although usually fairly mildly. That is interesting and I'll have to find out where or how easily sodium alginate can be gotten.
    Anne, dx'ed April 2011

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    I was treated for a very long time for 'silent reflux'...with pantoprazole. Am basically off it now, the coughing seemed to subside with weaning off pred once and for all. Not sure the 2 are related to the cough. First rheumy suggested cough drops (sugarless of course!), they worked just fine. Except now I'm addicted to Ricola...hmmm, Ricola? Pred? Pantaprazole? Ricola wins!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrtmeo View Post
    What did you do to resolve the post nasal drip?
    I have read that acid reflux can cause this too and my mom has barrett's esophagus and a healing peptic ulcer.
    She rarely ever felt any acid reflux.
    This made it difficult to diagnose.
    And this can also cause inflammation and feeling of irritation in throat.

    I think a lung function test also helps sort what type of breathing problem one has which might also help with diagnosis. Has she seen a pulmonary specialist?

    I had wheezing from any exertion when my lung function was worse. Pulmonary rehab helped me a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annekat View Post
    I have wondered, too, if some of my coughing could be from acid reflux, which I have from time to time, although usually fairly mildly. That is interesting and I'll have to find out where or how easily sodium alginate can be gotten.
    I think here it (Faringel) might be under this name:

    Gaviscon for Heartburn & Acid Reflux Relief

    The seaweed extract aliginate can be got at most health food stores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drz View Post
    I think here it (Faringel) might be under this name:

    Gaviscon for Heartburn & Acid Reflux Relief

    The seaweed extract aliginate can be got at most health food stores.
    Yes, Gaviscon has the right amount of sodium alginate in it, but it also, has Aluminum which I avoid.

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    I had a similar wheeze, mine was a combination of subglotal and bronchial stenosis. Most of mine was in the Bronchial tube on my left side. After a while i was able to identify exactly where it was as I got so used to it. I got no improvement from treatments, but did finally get an ablation which led to several months of improvement. I'm told that will have a finite timeline before it returns though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyborg View Post
    I had a similar wheeze, mine was a combination of subglotal and bronchial stenosis. Most of mine was in the Bronchial tube on my left side. After a while i was able to identify exactly where it was as I got so used to it. I got no improvement from treatments, but did finally get an ablation which led to several months of improvement. I'm told that will have a finite timeline before it returns though.
    Hi Bob,
    That is what scares me the most is that the treatments are not permanent.
    Anytime they cut away tissue, they cause more scar tissue which ends up shrinking bringing back the original problem.
    Perhaps, if they cutaway enough to make up for the shrinkage, it would give people relief?

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    I have an update.
    I found this study showing pepsin to be permanently deactivated using alkaline water.
    I am trying it as a nasal rinse and gargle with my mom versus drinking it because I think we need some pepsin for digestion.

    Potential benefits of pH 8.8 alkali... [Ann Otol Rhinol Laryngol. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

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    Mine was actually a cryo-ablation. There is way less scarring from that. But they cautioned it was not permanent for sure.
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