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    I first had symptoms of inflammatory arthritis 10 years ago while I was pregnant with my daughter, I would have morning stiffness which was relieved by movement, not rest and was having a lot of back pain at night and difficulty walking when I would first get up. I got a referral to a rheumatologist when she was about 6 months old and he diagnosed me with seronegative spondyloarthoparthy and prescribed anti imflammatory medication. I didn't want to take medications as I was still nursing, so focused on losing weight and exercise and felt better the next several years. Over the past couple years, I started having more symptoms of fatigue and low grade overall arthritis. I also developed chronic sinus problems and had surgery to fix a deviated septum and straighten a previously broken nose as a child 7 years ago. It helped initially, but the sinus probems slowly started to worsen again, but I did not connect the two symptoms at the time. A year ago, this past spring, I asked my primary care provider for another referral to a rheumatologist for symptoms of fatigue and morning stiffness and arthritis, and dry eyes and mouth. She checked my rheumatoid factor, which was mildly elevated, so made a referral through our HMO insurance. I got in to see a rheumatologist in August, he ran blood work tests, and took xrays, and prescribed Mobic. He told me when I went back for a recheck that the tests did not show anything specific. I told him the Mobic was making my heart race so would just take Aleve as needed. He said he would not pick me up as a patient, but could come back if needed. Meanwhile, in the Fall, I started developing roaming severe joint pain which would cause extreme pain in a joint for a day or two, to the point where I couldn't move it, then go away as if nothing happened. I made an appointment with the same rheumatologist, told him my new symptoms and concerns, and he looked at me as if I was crazy and and had never heard of symptoms like this before. He told me I had tendonitis and that he could inject my joint. I told him that I was a physical therapist, and that I knew what tendonitis was, and that was not what I had. I said I didn't want an injection of cortisone as the joint paint would only last a day or two, then be gone like nothing ever happened. He didn't do any other testing, just said he could send me for a lip biopsy so rule out Sjorgens syndrome but that it was an invasive, painful test so I decided not to have that done. A month or two after I saw him, I was researching arthritis and autoimmune symptoms online and discovered that there was a condition called migratory arthritis and that it was roaming joint pain like I had and I thought, hmm, I am not crazy and this condition really does exist. Then, in the Winter I developed symptoms of Raynauds Syndrome in both hands. I was very concerned as I was still having the migratory arthritis and morning stiffness and fatigue and worsening dry eyes and mouth, and this was another autoimmune symptom. So I called the rheumatology office to make an appointment and asked to see a different rheumatologist. I was told I could not change rheumatologists so made an appointment with "Dr. Arrogant" again. My neighbor told me I should take a picture of my Raynauds in my hands on my smart phone so he would believe me. So I saw him for an office visit, told him about the new symptom of Raynauds in both hands, and also a list of all my previous symptoms. He was not not concerned at all and told me I shouldn't be concerned either. He didn't do any more testing, but did refer me to the "dry mouth dentist".
    Meanwhile, starting in the Fall, I started having more sinus problems. I was getting nosebleeds, and what I now realize was crusting and bloody mucus. I just thought my sinus problems were getting worse and would possibly need another ENT referral and sinus surgery but wanted to wait until summer to have anything done. I also thought my sinuses were dry so got a vaporizer for my bedroom. I had been doing the Neimed sinus rinses for the past couple years, so just did them more frequently, flushing out my sinuses daily. I also started having more problems with earwax and had to have it removed at the doctors office. In the Winter, I also got an antibiotic for a sinus infection. In April, my left ear became blocked, my primary care provider moved out of state, so I saw a different doctor the beginning of May. He told me to take Mucinex which really didn't help. I was trying to get a new internal medicine doctor as a primary care provider, but the wait time for new patient appointments was 3 months. So, when my left sinus and ear got worse the middle of May, I saw another different available doctor at the clinic who diagnosed me with an ear/sinus infection and prescribed Augmentin. When I started the antibiotic, I really started to feel worse, and I thought I must have a really bad sinus infection. I felt like I had a very bad flu and started having a lot more joint paint and body aches and fatigue. From the middle of May to the end of May, I really started to decline physically, to the point of having a lot of difficulty going up and down steps, so went back to the clinic when I finished the antibiotic and saw a nurse practioner. She checked my ear, said it was still red, and put me on another different antibiotic. A couple days after taking this, I developed a rash on my leg and my left eye was red, painful, and blurry, so my husband took me to the emergency room Saturday morning. The emergency room doctor told me I had the symptoms of untreated Lyme Disease so took a blood test and changed my antibiotic to Doxycycine. They weren't too concerned about my eye, but as I was worse on Monday, I made an appointment with the opthamologist. They were very concerned when they saw my eye. The diagnosed me with anterior uveitis, and said I did not have dry eyes, that this inflammation had been there for some time. They put me on strong steroid drops, said Lyme disease could cause uveitis, and made a recheck appointment for Friday, and would help me get a referral to an infectious disease doctor or rheumatologist. I specifically told them I did not want to see the same rheumatologist I had seen before! At this point physically, I got so bad and had such severe joint pain, that I had to start using a walker to walk, my husband got me an elevated toilet seat and lift chair because I had so much difficulty sitting and standing up. On Friday, at the eye recheck, my eye was much better, but my Lyme test came back negative, and that it was probably something autoimmine, so they made their referrals, and told me I really also needed an internal medicine doctor as opthamologists, they wouldn't be able to diagnose me but could treat my eye. That weekend I got worse and was so miserable, my husband took me back to the emergency room. I figured that if the steroid eye drops helped my eye so much that a systemic steroid would help me feel better so I basically told the ER doctor they either had to prescribe me steroids or put me in the hospital. He did prescribe 60 mg prednisone taper as a short term solution until I could get into a doctor to diagnose me. By the way, that was my 50th birthday, so I got prednisone as a birthday present! Early that Monday morning, my husband asked his internal medicine doctor, (who is excellent, and is also his friend) if he would see me. I had an appointment to see him that morning, but didn't make it as right after I took a shower, I felt like I was going to pass out and the sensation wouldn't go away. Since I was home alone with my 10 and 13 year old children, I called 911 and the paramedics came and my blood pressure was dropping every time I stood up. So I got a ride in the the ambulance to the emergency room again, where they stabilized me with fluids and prednisone and sent me home with an appointment with Dr. Rudy (my husband's internal medicine doctor) the next day Tuesday. Tuesday Dr. Rudy and his resident (teaching hospital and clinic affiliated with the university) spent 3 hours examining me and ordered numerous blood tests and made referrals for other testing and specialists. I did tell them at my appointment that I had been doing some research online that past weekend when I realized it was not Lyme Disease and some type of autoimmune disease and when I read about Wegeners Granulomatosis, I thought to myself "Oh my gosh, that is what I have." They told me there was a blood test and they would do that one also. They took 12 tubes of blood so they were ruling out and checking for everything.
    Four days later, on Friday morning June 13, Dr Rudy called me that one of my tests came back positive and that rheumatology would see me that day. So I wasn't too surprised when I saw the rheumatologist, that she told me my ANCA test was positive, and gave me a diagnosis of Wegeners based on my clinical history and findings. At this point, even though it was not a good diagnosis, I was just happy to get diagnosed, and be able to try treat the disease and feel better. They upped my prednisone to 80 mg, and said they would need to run some more lab tests to check for underlying infections prior to putting me on cycylophosphamide since it completely suppresses your immune system and sent me home. Unfortunately, my TB test came back nonspecific, so had to do another test which delayed starting the cycylophosphamide for another week. I was just about to start it, when my labs showed my kidney function had dropped by 50% with my creatinine at 1.57, so they put me in the hospital July 1-4 for the 3 day 1000 mg bursts of prednisone and a kidney biopsy. My last labs on July 9 showed creatinine at 1.32 so kidneys are thankfully improving.
    So far, the Wegeners affected my left eye, ear, sinuses, caused neuropathy in both legs and hands, and kidneys. I'm currently taking 150 mg cycylophosphamide, 65 mg prednisone tapering down by 5 mg per week, Prilosec, calcium/vitamin D supplement, Dapsone. I am feeling better and no longer have the severe joint pain, and only use a cane now for walking outside (mostly because of the neuropathy). I still am weak and debilitated and fatigue easily. I think it will take several months to regain all my strength but at least I can drive again and am feeling better. I live in a 2 story house with a basement and steps are still tiring but getting better. An ENT checked my sinuses and again thanfully, I don't have any damage, and at my last opthamology recheck she found only 2 inflammation cells so that is improving also. My left ear is no longer blocked with no hearing loss. So far I haven't had any involvement with my lungs. So the neuropathy and kidneys are the two areas which hit me hardest. It seems everyone that gets this disease is affected differently.
    So now I am trying to adjust to living with a chronic disease which I will have to manage for the rest of my life and adjust to a new normal. It seems the hardest part is that this disease is so unpredictable and you have to expect the unexpected. But, as I am feeling better, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and while I would love to have a medication free remission, if I have to take a low dose maintenance drug for the rest of my life to lead a relatively normal life, well, that's just how it will have to be and I will adjust to it, as many other people have. I got a lot of good and helpful information from this group right after I was diagnosed by searching the forums, and hope telling my story will help others also.
    Karen
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    Thank you for sharing your story, Karen. I got a very different sense of your experience from this post compared to your introduction post. I realize that my trajectory could have easily looked similar to yours if I had not been so fortunate to go to the right doctors who believed me and ran a gamut of tests to find my diagnosis early. I wish you had ended up going to a better rheumatologist from the beginning. It could've made a huge difference. My father in-law was talking about the difficulty my mother in-law has had getting diagnosed and treated for colitis and he assumed that I had gone through working with doctors that didn't believe me or minimized my symptoms but I had to correct him. I'll admit that I thought that the roaming joint pain was in my head sometimes because it didn't make any sense. My doctor asked if my joints "really" hurt once but that was the only time I was questioned. Doctors that ignore and minimize your symptoms only hurt people like us. I'm glad you're recovering. The process of adjusting to this chronic condition and expecting the unexpected takes time. I hope you have unexpectedly smooth sailing from now on.

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    Please tell me that Dr. Arrogant got an update about you and is educating himself on GPA (and other conditions) accordingly. Now that guy, he is a dipstick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lag713 View Post
    Please tell me that Dr. Arrogant got an update about you and is educating himself on GPA (and other conditions) accordingly. Now that guy, he is a dipstick!
    I'm not sure, as I have not seen him again, but am now being seen by other rheumatologists in the same office so would assume he heard about me being diagnosed and treated for Wegeners. When I gave my history to other physicians, I got the impression they were appalled he could not recognize the symptoms of migratory arthritis and did no further testing when I kept making appointments and coming in with worsening symptoms. It upsets me to think about it because I think I could have been diagnosed much sooner, before the Wegeners had progressed to the point it did. It also makes me angry to think of him treating other patients the same way, because he probably has.
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    I hope he learned a valuable lesson and is making changes. I'm glad the other rheumatologists seem to be on the ball and think it was appalling.

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    Thanks for sharing, Karen. I'm glad to hear you got by without the sinus damage that some of us have incurred, and that things seem to be on track. But then you have had worse problems with joint pain and neuropathy than I have, and some kidney involvement, which I have also avoided so far. Each case is a little different. I'm glad you are feeling better, and keep us posted on your journey to at least a medicated remission.
    Anne, dx'ed April 2011

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    It is upsetting when the medics dont seem able to join the dots as it were . I'm glad you're on the right track now . And good Luck


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    Thanks so very much for sharing your story. I just read your story and when I did... I could not believe what I read... your story is my story... almost. The one big different is that I have not been dxed yet... I can't seem to get the doctors to listen... they just keep pushing me out of their office.... telling me I have the flu and/or an infection. I have had the flu since July of last year.... My symptoms have not been to the point that I have needed to be hospitalized since I was back 10 years ago...I was dx'ed with Rheumatoid Arthritis in the 90's.... seronegative.... dx'ed with Sjogrens seronegative in late 80's. Then in 2004 was hospitalize because blood sugars were sky high... coughing up blood...kidneys not working well... at that time I was told they didn't know what was wrong... at first they thought it was congested heart failure which they ruled out. I just hope some day I will get dx'ed before I get as sick as some of the others on this forum. So glad you did finally get dx'ed. I sure hope you are doing so much better now!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrottop50 View Post
    Thanks so very much for sharing your story. I just read your story and when I did... I could not believe what I read... your story is my story... almost. The one big different is that I have not been dxed yet... I can't seem to get the doctors to listen... they just keep pushing me out of their office.... telling me I have the flu and/or an infection. I have had the flu since July of last year.... My symptoms have not been to the point that I have needed to be hospitalized since I was back 10 years ago...I was dx'ed with Rheumatoid Arthritis in the 90's.... seronegative.... dx'ed with Sjogrens seronegative in late 80's. Then in 2004 was hospitalize because blood sugars were sky high... coughing up blood...kidneys not working well... at that time I was told they didn't know what was wrong... at first they thought it was congested heart failure which they ruled out. I just hope some day I will get dx'ed before I get as sick as some of the others on this forum. So glad you did finally get dx'ed. I sure hope you are doing so much better now!!!
    I'm glad reading my story helped you. Don't give up trying to get a diagnosis and being persistent. In retrospect, if I had known at the time I had a life threatening disease, I would have fought a lot harder to get a 2nd opinion from another rheumatologist, but I never dreamed I would have a disease like Wegener's Granulomatosis. I think it makes a big difference to get a doctor that is both smart and listens to you as a patient. Easier said than done many times, especially if you have a limited choice of physicians because of your health insurance, as I did having an HMO. As many other posters on this forum have said, we have to assertively advocate for ourselves as patients! Autoimmune diseases in general are difficult to diagnose and I read a study one time on the length of time it took for a correct diagnosis for less common autoimmune diseases and it was like 12-15 years from the time the person first started having symptoms. I too, hope you get a correct diagnosis and treatment to make you feel better.

    As for an update on myself, I am thankfully doing much better. I spent five and a half months on oral Cytoxan and in December was officially declared in remission and switched to Imuran. I've been tapering down on the prednisone and am now down to 5 mg. My kidney function is now back to normal, I still have some neuropathy in my right foot but much improved from what it was. I haven't had any more problems with my left eye and my strength and endurance are much better, and I no longer have severe joint pain. It was definitely a bumpy ride to get to this point, I was severely anemic for awhile and had to have my Cytoxan dose lowered as my white blood count was too low, developed a neutopenic fever, low blood pressure and generally felt like walking death until my blood levels came back up. My doctor also thinks I came down with a case of gastroenteritis (stomach flu) the end of October that my immunosuppressed system couldn't get rid of, as I had bouts of nausea and vomiting every week of two for a couple months. I feel like I've just ran one of those ultramarathons, (and I didn't even sign up to be in it!) But for now, all my lab numbers look good or near normal, my hair is growing back, and I am enjoying life in my "new normal". Because of the nature of this disease with frequent relapses, I know this can change in an instant, but I try to live mindfully each good day.
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    Just wanted to clarify when I said my kidney function was back to normal, I was referring to my creatinine level being back in the normal range. My eGFR is still low at 58 which would put me at the low end of stage 3 kidney disease. At my last appointment, my nephrologist said I didn't need to come back for 6 months so I guess it's just something they keep an eye on.
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