Originally Posted by
ingemlb
Not sure Jana. It's more at the lower end of the ribcage to the side and near the waist. The pain comes and goes. I thought it was triggered by passing urine however I now think it's triggered by changing into certain positions (hence sitting on the toilet changing positions etc). For instance when I am reclining it hurts like hell to sit up and vice versa. Twisting to the right also brings it on. When the pain starts it is extremely severe and takes the breath away. Inbetween these attacks it is just a discomfort. It hasn't been quite as severe as on Wednesday evening when it started but then I have been on pain meds since then which may be taking the edge of it a bit. I am taking extra strong paracetemol (we call them Panadol Osteo) for my knee but I think I may need to add some tramadol.
Inge if it's muscular in nature it is probably being caused by one or both of the following:
1. A trigger point in the Illiopsoas muscle (two muscles) located deep in your belly. They attach to your 1-5th lumbar vertebrae, the illiac crest (hip bone), and the femur (large leg bone.) The primary purpose of these muscles is to flex your hip by lifting your thigh toward your belly. It also helps you to sit up from a prone position. It can refer pain from your lower back to your gluts (flank).
2. A trigger point in the Quadratus Lumborum (QL). It attaches to the last rib, 1-4th lumbar vertebrae, and the iliac crest (hip bone). It is also a deep abdominal muscle. The QL's supports the entire upper body without them you'd sway like a flower stem. It also participates in forced exhalation like coughing and sneezing. Pain pattern is lower back and flank.
The pain with both of these muscles can be sharp and stabbing depending on where in the muscle the trigger point is located. They can be massaged out by a therapist that knows trigger point therapy. I won't lie to you it will hurt like the dickens to get them out, but when the muscle releases you will feel such relief you will realize it was worth it. There are also some self help massages you can do and if you're interested I'll post them.
I've both had these trigger points and worked on many a client with them. Some would walk in doubled over in pain, but I was able to help the majority of them in one or two sessions that concentrated on those areas. This is no time for a full body massage as the therapist needs all the time to deactivate the points.
These can both be researched online too. Hope this helps if the ortho decides it's muscular.
Cindy
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