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vdub
08-09-2015, 03:08 PM
I haven't been around for a while and for a pretty good reason -- I was preparing to have my knee totally replaced. There was so much to do to prepare for it because we were basically preparing for leaving in the RV for the winter and doing it in July. A lot was done in that time, to include putting a cabin in the woods on some property we have in central Idaho and getting my MG running and then buttoned up for winter after a great test drive (first drive) (http://wasem.com/mga/1sttrip22.html). The restoration isn't complete, but is coming along nicely.

Anyway, the knee replacement was 5 days ago. I was a little nervous and wondering if it should be done, but there was no more cartilage left and I was feeling better than I had in 5 years so I figured I should "patch the roof while the sun was shining". The entire procedure went well, but there were still wegs-related issues.

I went off mtx about 2 weeks prior to the surgery. Given my mtx schedule and the surgery schedule, I actually went off the mtx about 2.5 weeks early. My rheumy has asked that I stay off the mtx as a test. However, I am still on 7.5mg pred. Actually, on 50mg/day at the moment, but that story is below.

As most of you know, my wegs attacked my pituitary gland and I lost it. That's a pretty vital gland and causes all sorts of additional issues, one of which, is the possibility of an adrenal crisis during times of physical trauma such as having your knee joint sawed out, then drilled and screwed.

The surgeon accounted for the trauma and possible crisis and pretty well loaded me up with additional cortisone, but, nevertheless, I went into adrenal crisis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenal_crisis) about 8 hours after the surgery.

I'm not sure if the US pain scale is a worldwide thing or not, but we have a pain scale from 1 to 10 where 10 is "the worst you can imagine". I always describe to the nurse that 10, to me, is PW torture excruciating, so that sets the subjective scale at a pretty high threshold. My adrenal crisis pain level was at an 8.5, while I gave the knee surgery itself between 2 and 4. The pain was isolated to my kidneys as they were in shutdown mode. The crisis was pretty painful and lasted several hours until a ward doc could issue more drugs. By the time the ward doc arrived, the nurse had max'ed out her quota of morphine. The doc gave me hydromorphone, but I don't know what amounts. Neither the morphine or hydromorphone relieved the pain. Once the doc determined I was in crisis and gave me a megadose of injectable cortisone, it was all over. The crisis subsides as fast as it comes on, maybe 20 minutes to full recovery. And that was the experience I had with a previous adrenal crisis, too.

This was my second adrenal crisis. The first (post #8) (http://www.wegeners-granulomatosis.com/forum/general-wg-chat/4535-travel-not-travel.html)was only a few months ago. You would think I'd learn, but you aren't always in the proper state of mind to put the dots together. But, I think I have the idea now and I just repurchased all my now-expired solucortef for these little emergencies.

Otherwise, the knee surgery was no problem at all. I rate the pain just a little higher than my normal day-to-day issues with wegener's and the pain it causes. Its a different pain (sharper), but no more worse. I left the hospital with a walker, but went on to using just a cane several hours later. I'm now in day 6 after the surgery and I'm walking easily without a limp. I still use the cane, but only to catch myself if I start to trip and fall (which would be seriously bad at this stage).

That's about it for now. I allowed 2 months for recovery, but I think 2 weeks will be closer to the mark and total healing a month from now. Otherwise, all is good and I might have some time to look at the forum more often for a while. Hi to all my friends!

woz
08-09-2015, 07:15 PM
A new knee, gee vdub you will be chasing your better half around in no time, all the best for a speedy recovery.

Regards Woz.....

Alysia
08-09-2015, 09:43 PM
Wow vdub. You have being through so much... sounds scary and painful... what can I say ? You and others around here, and of course my angelic Batman, amazed me with your strength, courage and endurance. If it was me I dont think I would survived things like that.
Get enough rest, take care and please update us how are you doing.

Pete
08-10-2015, 12:02 AM
Vdub - our new bionic man???

Hope your recovery is fast and complete!

Alias
08-10-2015, 02:18 AM
Congrats on that new knee. My wife is six months post op and still having a few minor issues but it's a vast improvement. Sounds like you are getting a good result right out of the chute. The adrenal crises you have had sound terrifying. So... is it the plan for you to stay off MTX indefinitely?

Debbie C
08-10-2015, 10:15 AM
You have been a busy man....a cabin, getting the mg going..and then the knee. That adrenal crisis does sound horrible and scary,so glad the dr. knew what to do to get you stabilized., now next time ( hopefully there won't be ) you can tell them. Do you plan on spending the winter in Idaho ? Good luck for a speedy recovery and hopefully staying a mtx. Take care.

kaysee
08-10-2015, 10:29 AM
Congrats on the new knee. Hope things go smoothly from now on.

vdub
08-10-2015, 05:26 PM
So... is it the plan for you to stay off MTX indefinitely?
That's the plan, Tom. I hope it works out. I'd like to get off some of the other drugs, too. It would be nice to get off the pred, but I don't know if that will happen. The knee surgeon said my knee showed signs of damage from the steroids. The majority damage, of course, was due to jogging for many years.

mishb
08-10-2015, 10:01 PM
vdub, you are a man of many secrets, a cabin, getting the mg into a drivable condition and a new knee.

I'm glad everything went well - and fingers crossed for you to stay off MTX for good

Now, take care of yourself :hug2:

Psyborg
08-10-2015, 10:09 PM
Good luck on the new knee as well as staying off the MTX. :)

renidrag
08-10-2015, 10:23 PM
Good luck vdub, glad things went relatively well, good to know you will be lurking around for a while. All the best,
Dale

Geoff
08-10-2015, 10:58 PM
Wow Vdub you dont do things by halves do you!! Hope you didnt aggrevate the knee working on the MG, well it is low to the ground compared to most US cars!

Sounds like you have got things sorted now, which comes as no surprise to me at least. I have had Arthroscopy on both knees and right now the left is giving me gip. I have heard they can only do 3 ops max before complete replacement becomes and option, was that your experience??

Shame about the jogging related injury, I wonder what we are dooing now which will be shown to be detrimental to our health in later years??!!

Hope the recovery goes well and dont rush it!!

vdub
08-10-2015, 11:52 PM
getting the mg into a drivable condition and a new knee
Oh, I have even more secrets.... :-) The MG is just my first. Its an A model -- it is the very first car I ever bought out of high school. When I went to Vietnam it went into storage and stayed there until 2 years ago. But I also have a '67 MGBGT that is waiting to be worked on, a 1956 John Deere 420 tractor, and a 1924 2-ton Caterpillar crawler.

Geoff, I'm pretty convinced the 25 years of jogging while in the military was what affected my knee the most. It has been bad for the past 10 or 15 years. I had one artho done on it and, up until now, I was on a regimen of alternating steroid injections and synvisc injections every 3 months. The injections, coupled with my normal wegs pain regimen, gave me almost complete freedom to do as I wanted with very little impairment. I seriously had no problems with my knees -- I was doing everything I wanted with no pain and could have continued this way for probably many years.

But I knew the underlying problem with the knees was not going to get better and the wegs, or course, is an unknown, so I decided to start the process to fix them. It has gone amazingly well. I'll probably have the left knee done this spring or maybe next fall.

Pete
08-11-2015, 12:14 AM
Geoff, I'm pretty convinced the 25 years of jogging while in the military was what affected my knee the most.

And how much of that jogging was done in combat boots?? When I was in basic, after we recovered from the shock of being rousted from our bunks at o-dark-thirty, we "enjoyed" a bracing four mile double time wearing combat boots.

vdub
08-11-2015, 12:40 AM
And how much of that jogging was done in combat boots?
That's a good point, but most all was in jogging shoes. I was in the AF -- we even had air conditioned cockpits and after a nice flight around the country, we'd come home to hot meals. :-)

annekat
08-11-2015, 04:26 AM
Thanks, vdub, for sharing your experiences with the knee replacement and the adrenal crisis. These are things that are helpful for us to know. And I'm glad I don't jog, nor will I ever take that up!

Jaha
08-11-2015, 11:50 AM
Vdub,
You have been a very busy guy. I'm glad to hear you are doing so well with the new knee so soon. Good luck to you with your adventures in the USA. Take care and keep us up to date on things.

mishb
08-11-2015, 10:40 PM
[QUOTE=vdub;99066]Oh, I have even more secrets.... :-) The MG is just my first. Its an A model -- it is the very first car I ever bought out of high school. When I went to Vietnam it went into storage and stayed there until 2 years ago. But I also have a '67 MGBGT that is waiting to be worked on, a 1956 John Deere 420 tractor, and a 1924 2-ton Caterpillar crawler.
QUOTE]

I remember you and Phil speaking of these many years ago. Phil certainly loved his cars

renidrag
08-11-2015, 11:14 PM
During a drive to my daughter's house to deliver home grown veggies I came upon this. Some how I thought "Hey VDUB"!2177

renidrag
08-11-2015, 11:16 PM
I know, I am going to be Putinized.

Debbie C
08-11-2015, 11:54 PM
I know, I am going to be Putinized.

I think you are safe with this one !!!:biggrin1:

drz
08-12-2015, 07:58 AM
Vdub, thanks for the update. Glad to hear you are optimistic about a quick recovery from knee surgery. You hobby projects sound great fun and great way to spend you time and effort.

vdub
08-13-2015, 04:41 PM
Yet another update on recovery.... This is day 9 post op. I reached full rotation today on all the points that they score, so I'm back to where I'm supposed to be. Pain is minimal and healing is coming very quickly. I don't know if I can thank the extra pref for that or what. I could stop using the cane., but it does help guard against an accidental fall and, besides, I look rather dashing..... ;-0

Interesting video on te process.... Very scientific and very accurate.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJGJJOA1Me0